A
recent reply to Owen over at Northern Reflections
by one Steve
go me thinking (always a dangerous undertaking)
and my thoughts being far too extensive to reply to that post I will
try and assemble my thoughts here. Nothing I say here in anyway
reflects upon that conversation although it was fodder for this post
and I hope that I can disagree with some of the opinions expressed
with the same respect for each others views as these two individuals.
Firstly here are the responses from
Steve that grabbed my attention.....
“Things have changed. We should be
looking at our country as a lifeboat. If we want more displaced
persons we have to be engineered to take more passengers without
capsizing the boat.
Right now we have a housing crisis. Until this is solved why would we bring more people to live here?”
Right now we have a housing crisis. Until this is solved why would we bring more people to live here?”
“I know its not popular but nation
building IMHO is a better way. I propose we put our efforts into
goverment in a box. This is a software package just like any ERP the
leading companies used but designed for goverment. In the case of
Hati being self sufficient in food is a easy task. For other places
including our first nations, container food is the way forward. Third
container housing with solar panels, composting toilets and rain
collection.
If we have the capacity for these people, why dont we have the capacity for my children?”
If we have the capacity for these people, why dont we have the capacity for my children?”
First of all whilst there are many
places on this planet of ours where the lifeboat is not only in
danger of sinking but far too many where folks are already underwater
and more drowning on a daily basis. Whilst it is impossible to save
them all, and some that who are busy shoving the less buoyant under
who should perhaps not be supported, we cannot IMHO not rescue as
many as possible within our ability to sustain them however briefly.
It is a difficult discussion as there are far more displaced persons
than any one country can help, or indeed than 'civilized' (as opposed
to warring) nations can succor!
As for 'capsizing OUR boat' we are a
long way from that, the biggest problem I see is that far too many
passengers both established and recent/ want to crowd into (mostly)
one end of the boat, namely Toronto!! (or perhaps better expressed
'our larger urban centers'). This vast country of ours has lots of
capacity to accommodate both our own growing population and many
newcomers, the problem is that infrastructure, services, and
employment opportunities are increasingly being 'centralized' in
larger urban areas in the name of 'efficiency' which in my mind is
part of the problem. This city-centric thinking by both industry and
government is unlikely to change anytime soon.
Moving on, “In the case of Hati being
self sufficient in food is a easy task. For other places including
our first nations, container food is the way forward. “ OH lord
Steve, where do I start? Whilst I have no first hand knowledge of the
Haiti situation I do recognize that it is far from simple, they may
well be in a climate where under normal circumstances they can be
largely self sufficient so far as crops are concerned and from what I
have read they hardly can be faulted for being 'wasteful' with their
other resources. When ALL is destroyed returning to any measure of
self sufficiency is hardly 'easy'!
“container food is the way forward.”
Its hard to tell exactly what is meant by this particularly when
linked to a particular community, is this referring to the method of
getting the food TO the community or to a method of GROWING the food
within the community, either way again its not that simple and if if
the solution works for one segment of our nation it should work for
all! I invite “Steve” to expand upon what he meant by this
statement.
Finally “Third container housing with
solar panels, composting toilets and rain collection.” I have no
argument with this basic concept and so many folks are moving towards
more 'self sufficient' systems within their own households as are a
number of communities, particularly in rural or remote places. Whilst
the 'up front' costs make it largely impossible for lower income
individuals to move in this direction the ever reducing prices of
equipment and the availability of 'contract' installations are having
a positive impact upon the move away from less desirable systems.
Prefabricated 'container' housing may be a way for some less affluent
communities but such units are not affordable for many who are
currently living in 'substandard' housing for by the time they are
built to 'modern' standards the cost is prohibitive for far too many
folks. I know somewhat all about this having lived for many years in
a 'mobile home' which today would not be considered 'allowable' for a
year round residence, not perhaps luxurious but better than the
alternative when times are tight.
Steve, you said “If we have the
capacity for these people, why dont we have the capacity for my
children?” If you are having difficulty feeding your children or
finding employment for the older ones then I very much feel for you
having been in that situation many times in my life, however blaming
others for 'taking away your job' or trying to do what they must to
feed their family is non productive and futile. I wish you and all my
readers a happy and prosperous new year and a stress free 2018.
2 comments:
Hello Rural, I have done a bit of thinkingaboot lifeboats
People want to live in cities, and not just for the efficacy. I was raised in rual ontario, and now live in the Niagara region. I have a very nice house with pool and two car detached garage. My children both have post graduate degrees and are reasonably well employed in the GTA. They have faint hope of buying a house. This is wrong. When I a couple of years out of university I bought a house in the GTA for 50 grand and the feds through in five. We need to get control of housing. The perfect example of two paths are Hong Kong, which is the path we are on now, and Singapore is the path we should have taken. Just like Norway took the correct national energy plan. So yes I am blaming others for making decisions which has left my family with poorer options.
In terms of Hati, how many billions have we spent there? Could we not just have bought land and set up co op farms? When I refer to container food, I refer to high tech led systems.
A basic container house with 1 kw power and battery should cost no more than $15,000. So suggest we pick someone to help. Shotgunning a couple of dollars all around the world accomplishes nothing. My whole life we have thrown money at the third world and all we see is nice shiny land rovers driven by the aid agency.
After we fix Hati then maybe El Salvador. But before we touch anyplace should we not fix our sovereign neighbours, the first nations of Canada.
I agree that affordable home ownership is out of reach for many folks, particularly for those choosing to live in major urban centers, we must endeavor to make it easier for ALL those at the lower end of the income scale to find suitable housing.
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